from the people who brought you stalin: ([info]earlwyn) wrote,
@ 2009-07-08 14:51:00
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Current mood: sleepy
Current music:SGA -- Inferno (2x19)
Entry tags:fandom: stargate atlantis

Re-watching SGA
So: I fail at writing this week. I think, I plot, I sit in front of th keyboard and something is my brain refuses to write. I pulled up Write or Die in hopes it would help and instead of letting the bouncy pop music annoy me into putting words into the text box, I just shut off sound on my computer. My brain and I, we're going to have a little chat about this soon.

Commentfic and prison fic still coming. Just -- slowly.

Instead of writing, I've been re-watching SGA in order to dive in fresh and obsessed into my season five DVDs. I've gotten to the end of season two again, and I have two thoughts I would like to share.

  1. Wow: this show is even gayer than I remember (and my short-term memory plugged it in as "pretty gay"). I'm watching Inferno right now, and man! John doesn't even pretend with Elizabeth that he's upset with Rodney flirting because he wants Norina for himself. It's just that Rodney has an interest. Hee! Boysss.


  2. As much as I really liked Ford, I absolutely adore Ronon. (I keep saying I need a Ronon icon.) It doesn't feel like the Team was the Team until Ronon came along. It makes me wonder how things would be different if Ford had stayed. I can't see Ford inspiring a bond between team members like Ronon inspires a bond. Yes, they're all centred around John, but Ronon raised the equality level to a different plane. Teyla and Ronon have a bond apart from John (and thus in a way, allowing John and Rodney to have a larger bond apart from Teyla and Ronon); Rodney and Ronon have a bond apart from John (and thus allowing Teyla to act more as 2IC for the team). Instead of each member having a part in relation to John and focused around John as leader, they each have their own place, their own specialties, and they all respond and relate to each other. I don't see that happening with Ford. Ronon really made the team Family.


I feel like I haven't been around all week, even though I've been reading the f'list. How are you guys?

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[info]sajina
2009-07-09 04:44 pm UTC (link)
I'm fine, thank you. At the time I am pretty obsessed with Stargate, I bought all available 4 seasons of SGA (in Germany) and all 10 seasons of SG-1. Thanks to the lack of Doctor Who on telly (except Torchwood), Stargate had it very easy.

Oh, Inferno! I have been watching these episodes for the first time (but I rewatch them on telly. Funny, I watched them three weeks ago on DVD and suddenly, they bring a repeat on TV until S5 airs in August).
The GateWorld podcast made a wonderful podcast about the characters ("The overuse and underuse of characters"), especially about Ford & Ronon.
But I have to agree, Ford had little to no chance to prove himself as a character and to have a bond to any of the other team members.

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[info]earlwyn
2009-07-09 05:31 pm UTC (link)
Thanks to the lack of Doctor Who on telly (except Torchwood), Stargate had it very easy.

This. If Doctor Who had a full series this year, I would be much more pressed for time for all this Stargate-ness. Doctor, I miss you, come back!

Nice!, that the episodes repeat on the teevee for S5. This is my second re-watch, and most of the episodes I've only seen once before. Though there are a few I watched (*kof* S4 *kof*) repeatedly already. I'll have to listen to that podcast. It sounds excellent!

Ford had little to no chance to prove himself as a character and to have a bond to any of the other team members.

This is true. I totally agree that Ford never was given the chance to prove himself and since he was around for only a year, the bonds he could make within the team were limited. But my point was more that I think, even if Ford had stuck round, the dynamics would be very different. Because I don't think Ford and John would ever really get past the rank difference. They might have an older-brother, younger-brother relationship eventually but I don't think it would be similar to the relationship John and Ronon have. With the golfing and the hugging and the friendship on a peer level. And I don't think Ford and Teyla would bond in the same way as Ronon and Teyla. Like, even after years, I can't see Ford taking Teyla's hand and supporting her and walking her to the infirmary while John is angry with her.

Maybe I'm being unfair to Ford, because we really don't know. But, like, I can totally picture the Team (with Ronon) hanging out during their downtime and watching movies and playing games and being really tight-knit family, not just team. I can't really see it as well with Ford there, because the dynamics are more restricted given that Ford is Earth military and a generation younger.

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[info]sajina
2009-07-09 07:15 pm UTC (link)
I meant s2 as a repeat on tv, not s5 (which airs for the first time in August). Lucky me, I got into SGA with s4 earlier this year, and now I'll have everything watched/rewatched until August 12!

I agree with your thoughts on Ford. I actually liked him better when he left the team and worked on his own. That's something I sometimes don't like about Atlantis - some story arcs were never worked out, got to an end.

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[info]earlwyn
2009-07-09 07:40 pm UTC (link)
I liked Ford better too once he became seperated from the team. I have some mixed feelings on the whole "druggie" thing, because it gave him both some awesome moments to be a very individual character (bright and driven and with his own goals apart from John and Atlantis) but comparitively he was such a blase character before hand that it kind of makes it hard not to prefer him as an drugged-out madman.

I'm generally cool with how Ford's arc ended. I mean, I kind of like that we never really know what became of him, if he ever survived or found a life somewhere in Pegasus. That seems plausible to me -- sometimes you never know. But yeah, in general, there's some things I wish got more resolution, or that we didn't just have to assume the resolution.

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